Tribulation by Pastor Dan Maines

John went through the same tribulation as the seven churches. (Rev. 1:9, 2:3, 2:9-10, 2:13, 3:10) He was not speaking of events 2,000 years in the future, when He was living them. If Revelation was written in 96 AD, what events soon took place that would compare to his foretelling? There is none. Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must SOON take place; The soon events were happening as fast as John could write. He was living it!

The temple and the city were still standing in Revelation 11, because John is sent to measure them. This would not be possible after 70 AD.

IN MATTHEW 24 - One thing for sure nobody can deny there was a "Coming" that took place vs 3. Knowing that a Coming took place eliminates all that End Times Scary stuff. Find the blessings in it. Didn't Jesus tell His Apostles some of them would not die before His coming. Yes, He did say that. (Matthew 16:27-28) In fact Jesus even said that all prophecy would be fulfilled before some of His Apostles died? (Luke 21:22; 31-32; Matthew 24:34)

Jesus is talking to His disciples telling them "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. (in their lifetime before the end of the age their living in)

The great tribulation was the worst thing to ever happen to Israel. The events were the biggest Israel ever saw or will ever see.

There is no such thing as a seven year tribulation. The great tribulation lasted 3-1/2 years 42 months.

John tells us he WAS in the tribulation with his Contemporaries. (Rev. 1:9)

The great tribulation was the worst thing to ever happen to Israel. The events were the biggest Israel ever saw or will ever see.

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Tribulation - Matthew 24:29-31

Matthew 24:29-31
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

WE ARE TOLD AFTER THE TRIBULATION THOSE FIRST CENTURY DISCIPLES WOULD SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GLORY.  AND REMEMBER JOHN SAID HE WAS A COMPANION IN THE TRIBULATION (REV 1:9)

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Great Tribulation

The saints were not taken out of Hades until after the great tribulation was over.

Prior to Jesus' ascension to heaven no one went to Heaven. They went to Sheol (Old Testement) and Hades (New Testament.) John 3:13 They waited for the atoning work of Christ and the resurrection from the dead.

In the Old Testament, the Hebrew word for where they were prior to the resurrection is Sheol. In the New Testament the Greek word is Hades. This place was a waiting area for disembodied spirits.

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Revelation "Tribulation" G2347 all pertain to the destruction of Jerusalem

"Tribulation" is in Revelation 5 times. All 5 are G2347. And all pertain to the destruction of Jerusalem.

THE WORD USED IN REVELATION 1:9 IS THE SAME WORD IN ALL OF REVELATION. TRIBULATION AND GREAT TRIBULATION HAVE THE SAME MEANING IN REVELATION. Rev. 1:9, Rev 2:9, Rev 2:10, Rev 2:22, Rev 7:14

The KJV translates Strong's G2347 in the following manner: tribulation (21x), affliction (17x), trouble (3x), anguish (1x), persecution (1x), burdened (1x), to be afflicted (with G1519) (1x).

It's not up to futurists to grab what you want the meaning to be. Oh! futurists can! But let's say we do use the word "affliction" Let's see what nonsense futurists make it out to be.

(NKJV) Revelation 1:9 I, John, both your brother and companion in the "affliction" [DOES NOT MAKE SENSE] and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was on the island that is called Patmos for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

(NASB) Revelation 1:9 I, John, your brother and fellow participant in the "affliction" [DOES NOT MAKE SENSE] and kingdom and perseverance in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.

(KJV) I John, who also am your brother, and companion in "affliction" [IN THIS WAR], and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

No matter what futurists make tribulation (thlipsis) out to be, John was right there with his contemporaries. The Events John writes about actually happened in the first century.

Remember audience relevance, What would the original readers have thought when they read this? John told the seven churches to expect these things at any moment.

Jesus has John tell the seven churches in Asia Minor, that he is going to come very soon to them. To THEM. Does "Behold I AM COMING QUICKLY" sound like it means 2,000 years, TO THEM? Jesus' Coming was just like the Fathers when He came in judgment in the Old Testament and every time it was spiritual, never bodily.

He promised his return would be within the lifetime of his contemporaries (Matthew 23:36) his Apostles (Matthew 24:34), and the 1st century Sanhedrin (Mathew 26:64).

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The "Great Tribulation" occurred in the 1st century.  Jesus said, "This generation shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled." (Matthew 24:34)

"This generation" was the one He was talking to on the Mt. of Olives. He was talking to Peter, James, John, & Andrew - It was THEIR GENERATION... THIS means the one at hand.  A Generation is 40 years. Jesus was talking to them AD 30 - 33 and exactly 40 years later - AD 70 - everything happened, He said would happen.  Matthew 24:21 -For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Followed by -Verse 34 - Says "This generation shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled."

According to Jesus, "the great tribulation" occurred during the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in AD 70. It was during the generation of His contemporaries. He did not lie.

 

 

 

 

 

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